Opel Team Serbia

Po prvi put sam danas odradio samodijagnostiku na Vectri A 2.0i. Imam ugradjen plin i rele sa jednim otpornikom koji kao laze nesto kompjuter.
Mala pomoc, izasli su sledeci codovi
13
31
83
71
Sta pokazuju i koje su greske ?
Hvala.

pa, u prvom postu ove teme ima link na kome postoje detaljna objasnjenja citanja i objasnjenja error kodova

Pa zato se i buni, fali mu DIS modul

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Digitalna servisna knjižica za Vaše vozilo.

E kad smo kod C16LZ sad na tom motoru prijavljuje 15 ali koji sistem ima LZ kad autodata i onaj britanski sajt za diagnostiku pokazuju nemogucnost samodiagnostike na ovom motoru, i jos jedno pitanje za ovaj LZ gde mu se nalazi CTS senzor temperature motora, ja sam jedii senzor koji lici na ovaj nasao usrafljen za usisnu granu sa zadnje strane, a sa prednje je usrafljen senzor za skalu u kabini i to je potvrdjeno da je to on, dakle dal je moguce da je taj CTS na usisnoj a ne na bloku mada je i usisna specificna i vrela ko i motor na ovom tipu, dakle pitanje je gde se stvarno nalazi taj senzor za T i jel on na grani i ako neko zna jel vaze kodovi od NZ za LZ motor

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ŽIVOT JE JEDAN,
A Calibra DVA.NULA

Video sam ja to ali me interesuje koliko su strasne ove greske, recimo 31 rpm nema signala , najverovatnije sto motor nije pokrenut, 13 oxygen senzor, uglavnom ljudi prijavljuju to kao problem, da li je uvek problem?, 83 dizna 3 mala voltaza, mozda zato sto ima rele za plin, 71 visok napon na ATS (gde je i sta je to).
Kada sam rekao objasnjenja mislio sa da mi neko to razjasni.

Sve ovo predhodno je zbog plina jer nema tacne inf. i sto motor ne radi to je ok, a ovo 71 je senzor temperature usisanog vazduha i on je u protokomeru i imas spoj sa + a evo i kako da ga proveris

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ŽIVOT JE JEDAN,
A Calibra DVA.NULA

Dobro ovo znaci da je nesto oko protokomera.
Da li okretanjem onog nazubljenog tocka na protokomeru mogu da menjam napon, ili sta.
Da li je crkao, ali ako vec pokazuje visok napon najverovatnije da postoji mogucnost da se on i smanji. Kako ?

druze, nemoj da diras protokomer jer mozes samo da ga zeznes jos vise, ako ustanovis da je kvar u njemu lepo kupi polovan sa nekog stranca kojeg nisu chachkali nasi strucni majstori i uzivaj

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www.wheel-specialist.com

... malo je nezgodno proveriti po autodati jer treba obezbediti 0,20, i 40 stepeni !

kod greske 13

Lamda sonda
Ako je otkriven kod greske 13, upravljacki uredjaj uzima 450mV kao ekvivalentnu vrednost

kod grseke31

Greska 31 se pokazuje uvek kada se ukljuci paljenje.Cim davac impulsa pri startu prima signal broja obrtaja, greska se odmah brise pri ispravnom sistemu i nece ostati u memoriji.

kod greske 71

Ovaj kod greske je u temperaturi usisnog vazduha. Racuna se sa ekvivalentnom vrednoscu od 20C. Blokiraju se funkcije zabelezavanja, racuna se sa poslednjim vazecim vrednostima.

kod 83 probaj ponovo da ocitas.

I na kraju izbrisi sve ove greske i provozaj vozilo pa ih ponovo ocitaj dali ima kodova.

Ako imas venturi plin, proveri gde je tacka ubrizgavanja plina u usis. Treba da bude POSLE protokomera, ne PRE!!

Mene je ovo zajebavalo mnogo na X20XEV calibri

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Ma to svi majstori za plin na stave pre protokomera i zeznu stvar ne razumem sto to rade i kod njega je pre protokomera stavljao je sliku

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ŽIVOT JE JEDAN,
A Calibra DVA.NULA

Bravo kvcali, dobro secanje
... nego kad smo vec ovde, posto sam postavio post "veza protokomera i plina", a meni se ovde javlja greska "oko" protokomera,
vidi li neko u tome razlog seckanja Vectre na malom rpm ?



Doslo je do promene. Danas sam oko 14 casova skinuo klemu sa akumulatora i ponovo je prikljucio oko 19 casova.
Kada auto radi na benzin nije prijavljivao greske (bice kasnije), dok je upalio lampicu oko minut nakon prebacivanja na plin.
Paljenje lampice na plin sam ignorisao i usredsredio se samo na benzin, resetovao kompjuter i nakon toga lampica se nije palila sve do trenutka kada treba ili vec upali ventilator. kodovi ovom prilikom prikazuju samo 31 (engine rpm senzor, no signal), i, 71 (air temperature sensor"ats" high voltage).
Znaci greske 13, i 83 su nestale.
Moze mala pomoc, mozda trebam opet nesto da iskopcam pa ukopcam ili slicno, ili pa da pratim putanju zica (ali ne znam kojih) itd.
Pomoc !!!

Pozdrav svima! Gde se nalazi taj konektor kod Vektre 1.6 16V sa Z16XE motorom? Uradio bih i ja to, pa da vidim šta mi daje kao rezultat, pošto se sijalica motora pali kada mu dam malo jači gas, a motor u leru ima nemiran rad.

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meni su prikljucili na komp i isto kazu da ne pokazuje ni jednu gresku samo nema neki pritisak stoji na 0 a treba da bude od 9 pa na vise tako da neki kazu map senzor neki kazu protokomer sad kad bih imao i jedno i drugo pa da probam a da ih kupim sta ako nije to

Brate ti majstori su losi kad ne umeju da procitaju sa prave diagnostike odradi ti ovu rucnu iz ove teme pa javi kodove nema ti druge

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ŽIVOT JE JEDAN,
A Calibra DVA.NULA

e nabrzaka samo

poznanik me udavi sa greskom 43...

ajmo nabrzaka potvrdu samo

hvala

c20xe motor.92 astra F

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16 V Gust vozilo by Lega_Os ET 13.803 sec/TT 13.674 / 402
Opel Astra 2.0 GSi

Ta greska ne postoji na ,
A kad smo vec kod toga jer sretao neko u praksi motronic na XEV motoru, mislim jer uspeo to neko da prebudzi ili je mozda to neka tunerska radionica radila, posto motronic ostavlja mogucnost za takve prepravke na X generaciju

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ŽIVOT JE JEDAN,
A Calibra DVA.NULA

ok,vec sam mislio da ne znam citati

ugl. radi se o abs senzoru i to "citanje" greske mi nije nikako bilo jasno.

hvala ti na potvrdi.

Misterija rjesena

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16 V Gust vozilo by Lega_Os ET 13.803 sec/TT 13.674 / 402
Opel Astra 2.0 GSi

E, pa nismo se razumeli, za ABS kod 43 oznacava
43 / Right front RPM sensor (resistance & connections) i ima znacenje

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ŽIVOT JE JEDAN,
A Calibra DVA.NULA

suuuupeeer...e sad sam lud zbunjen i jos manje kuzim onu tablicu.

Gdje si gledao?!

Znam od prije da se radi o ABS senzoru jer je to bila moja astra al se drug uhvatio kemijanja sa kodovima a ja sam ti tu mulac tak da et...ugl. gdje si procitao da je to TO ?

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16 V Gust vozilo by Lega_Os ET 13.803 sec/TT 13.674 / 402
Opel Astra 2.0 GSi

| A B C D E |
| K J H G F |

ovo je izgled konektora

kratko spojiš tačke A i B za motor, A i K za ABS, A i H za Alarm, A i C za automatski menjač evo spiska pa kratkospaj i broj kodove ,neko je već objasnio kako
* A - Ground
* B - Engine ECU
* C - Automatic Gearbox (except models with traction control)
* D - Fuel Computer (not UK models)
* E - Engine ECU
* F - +12v (fused)
* G - Bi directional data line
* H - Alarm
* J - 4x4 or Traction Control (pin may not be present on certain models)
* K - ABS

Kodovi
Za motor:
Mototronic 1.5 do 2.8 Fault:

12 Initiation of diagnosis. n/a
13 Oxygen sensor No change in voltage/open circuit.
14 Coolant Temperature Sensor (CTS) Low voltage
15 Coolant Temperature Sensor (CTS) High voltage
16 Knock sensor 1 No change in voltage
17 Knock sensor 2 No change in voltage
18 Knock control unit No signal, Engine Control Unit (ECU) fault
19 RPM signal (crankshaft sensor) Incorrect signal
21 Throttle position sensor High voltage
22 Throttle position sensor Low voltage
23 Knock sensor module n/a
24 Vehicle speed sensor (VSS) No signal
25 Injector valve 1 High voltage
26 Injector valve 2 High voltage
27 Injector valve 3 High voltage
28 Injector valve 4 High voltage
28 Fuel pump relay Low voltage
29 Injector valve 5 High voltage
31 Engine RPM signal (crankshaft sensor) No signal
32 Injector valve 6 High voltage
32 Fuel pump relay High voltage
33 Inlet manifold pressure sensor Voltage too high
34 Exhaust Gas Re-circulation (EGR) valve Voltage too high
34 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor Low voltage
35 Idle Speed Control Valve (ISCV) Poor or no idle speed control
36 Incorrect RON/Octane setting Damaged RON plug or bad connection.
37 Engine self-diagnosis (fault code light) Low voltage
38 Oxygen sensor Voltage low (1990 model year on)
39 Oxygen sensor Voltage high (1990 model year on)
41 Vehicle speed sensor (VSS) Low voltage
41 1 gear ident switch (C20LET systems) Low voltage
41 EST Line coil cylinder 2&3 (M2.8/XEV systems) High voltage
42 Vehicle speed sensor (VSS) High voltage
42 1 gear ident switch (C20LET systems) High voltage
42 EST Line coil cylinder 2&3 (M2.8 / XEV systems) High voltage
43 Linear EGR system (XEV systems) Faulty
44 Oxygen sensor Air/fuel mixture too lean (weak)
45 Oxygen sensor Air/fuel mixture too rich
46 Air pump relay High voltage
47 Air pump relay Low voltage
47 Linear EGR Position (XEV systems) Faulty
48 Battery voltage Low voltage
49 Battery voltage High voltage
51 ECU Programmable memory PROM error, hardware failure
52 Engine check light; final stage (fault code light) High voltage
53 Fuel pump relay Low voltage
54 Fuel pump relay High voltage
55 Engine Control Unit (ECU) fault Renew Engine Control Unit (ECU)
56 Idle Speed Control Valve (ISCV) Short to earth
57 Idle Speed Control Valve (ISCV) Interruption
59 Inlet manifold valve 1 Low voltage
61 Fuel Tank Vent Valve (FTVV) Low voltage
62 Fuel Tank Vent Valve (FTVV) High voltage
63 Inlet manifold valve 1 High voltage
63 EST Line coil cylinder 2&3 (M2.8 / XEV systems) Low voltage
64 EST Line coil cylinder 1&4 (M2.8 / XEV systems) Low voltage
65 Carbon Monoxide (CO) potentiometer Low voltage
66 Carbon Monoxide (CO) potentiometer High voltage
67 Throttle valve switch - idle position switch Low voltage - switch not opening
68 Throttle Switch (TS) - idle contact Idle switch not opening
69 Air Temperature Sensor (ATS) Low voltage
71 Air Temperature Sensor (ATS) High voltage
72 Throttle Switch (TS) - full load contact High voltage - Full load switch not running
73 Air Flow Sensor (AFS) Low voltage
74 Air Flow Sensor (AFS) High voltage
75 Transmission switch - torque control Low voltage
76 Automatic Transmission (AT) torque control Engaged long, ignition retard long
79 Traction control unit Incorrect ignition/injector cut-off
81 Injector valve 1 Low voltage
82 Injector valve 2 Low voltage
83 Injector valve 3 Low voltage
84 Injector valve 4 Low voltage
85 Injector valve 5 Low voltage
86 Injector valve 6 Low voltage
87 Air Conditioning (AC) cut off relay Low voltage
88 Air Conditioning (AC) cut off relay High voltage
89 Oxygen sensor heater Low voltage
91 Oxygen sensor heater High voltage
92 Camshaft sensor failure (XEV systems) Faulty
93 Hall Effect Switch (HES) Low voltage
94 Hall Effect Switch (HES) High voltage
95 Hot start valve Low voltage
96 Hot start valve High voltage
97 Traction control unit - ignition/injection cut off Incorrect signal - high voltage
98 Oxygen sensor Open circuit, wiring break
99 Code unknown n/a
113 Turbo boost control Boost presure high, out of range
114 Idle boost valve Above upper limit
115 Full boost pressure Below lower limit
116 Boost pressure Above upper limit
117 Wastegate valve Low voltage
118 Wastegate valve High voltage
121 Oxygen sensor 2 Lean exhaust, weak mixture
122 Oxygen sensor 2 Rich mixture/exhaust
123 Inlet manifold valve 1 Blocked
124 Inlet manifold valve 2 Blocked
132 Exhaust Gas Re-circulation (EGR) valve Incorrect signal
133 Exhaust Gas Re-circulation (EGR) valve 2 High voltage
134 Exhaust Gas Re-circulation (EGR) valve 2 Low voltage
135 'Check engine' lamp (fault code lamp) Low voltage
136 Engine Control Unit (ECU) n/a
137 Engine Control Unit (ECU) box High temperature
141 Secondary air pump Not enough air
142 Secondary air pump Air without pump
143 Immobiliser function in ECU No or incorrect signal
144 No immobiliser signal recived Faulty unit or break in wiring
145 Incorrect immobiliser signal received Faulty unit or break in wiring

Za ABS:
Anti-Lock Braking System ECU

16 Left-front solenoid
17 Right-front solenoid
18 Rear solenoids
19 Solenoids relay circuits
25 Faulty sensor toothed ring
35 Pump relay circuits (hydraulic modulator)
37 Stop lamp switch (brake pedal switch)
39/44 Left front RPM sensor (air gap between sensor and toothed ring, & sensor operation)
41/45 Left front RPM sensor (resistance & connections)
42/46 Right front RPM sensor (air gap between sensor and toothed ring, & sensor operation)
43/47 Right front RPM sensor (resistance & connections)
48 System voltage wrong (alternator or battery)
55 Faulty ECU

Anti Teef (alarm)ECU:
Alarm ECU (Factory fitted alarms only)


18 Fault with disarm signal
25 Horn - Voltage Low (Horn O/C or fuse blown)
26 Indicator left - open circuit
27 Indicator right - open circuit
28 Ultrasonic sensor driver side - open circuit or incorrect voltage
29 Ultrasonic sensor passenger side - open circuit or incorrect voltage
32 Boot (trunk) sensor caused an alarm condition
33 Bonnet (hood) sensor caused an alarm condition
34 Doors caused an alarm condition
35 Ignition turned on caused an alarm condition
36 Immobilization circuit - open circuit (starter circuit triggered causing alarm)
37 Radio caused an alarm condition
38 Ultrasonics caused an alarm condition
39 Fault with disarm signal. (central locking fuse blown, causing alarm condition)
40 Two alarm triggers at the same time.
41 Spare alarm input caused alarm condition
46 Rear Window smashed caused an alarm condition ('92 onwards models only)
52 Horn Voltage Low - Horn O/C or fuse blown
55 ECU fault

I za 4x4:
Four-wheel drive ECU

15 Oil temperature sensor - voltage high
24 No speed signal
31 No engine RPM signal
32 Pressure switch faulty
33 Solenoid valve - voltage high/transfer box overheated to 160°C on 1992 models
34 Solenoid valve - voltage low
37 Brake lamp switch
39 No ABS signal, or 0MPH and 2300RPM for more than 15 seconds
55 ECU faulty
71 Brake switch - voltage high
72 Brake switch - voltage low
73 Car stopped without braking from over 37mph
74 Power Assisted Steering PAS pressure less than 10 bar
75 Oil temperature sensor - voltage low/transfer box overheated to 160°C or 140°C for over 118MPH.
(Note that codes 15,39,71-75 apply only to models from roughly 1994 onwards, with electronic speedometers)

Tu je i za one sa V6 motorom
Traction Control ECU (V6 models and Astra GSi only)

14 Coolant temperature sensor - voltage low
15 Coolant temperature sensor - voltage high
21 Throttle position sensor - voltage high
22 Throttle position sensor - voltage low
26 Traction control throttle position sensor - voltage high (throttle motor resistor failure; V6 models only)
27 Traction control throttle position sensor - voltage low (throttle motor resistor failure; V6 models only)
31 No engine RPM signal
37 Stop lamp switch (brake pedal switch)
39 Left front RPM sensor (ABS fault)
42 Right front RPM sensor (ABS fault)
44 Left rear RPM sensor (ABS fault)
46 Right rear RPM sensor (ABS fault)
55 ECU fault
57 ABS status - signal low (indicates ABS system fault, not TC system fault)
58 ABS status - open circuit
63 Throttle motor - open circuit
64 Throttle motor - short circuit
82 On/off switch voltage low (dashboard switch)

Automatski menjač
Automatic Gearbox ECU

17 Solenoid 1-2/3-4 - voltage low
21 Throttle position sensor - voltage high
22 Throttle position sensor - voltage low
23 Coolant temperature switch - voltage high
25 Solenoid 1-2/3-4 - voltage high
26 Solenoid 2-3 - voltage low
27 Connection solenoid 2-3/solenoid TCC
28 Solenoid 2-3 - voltage high
29 TCC Solenoid - voltage low
31 No engine RPM signal
32 Pressure regulator solenoid - voltage low
33 Pressure regulator solenoid - current high
36 TCC Solenoid - voltage high
38 No transmission input RPM signal
39 No transmission output RPM signal
41 Gear error - hydraulic fault
42 Pressure regulator solenoid - short circuit
47 Down shift protection fault
48 Battery - voltage low
49 Battery - voltage high
56 Selector switch - incorrect signal
65 AT oil temperature sensor - voltage high
66 AT oil temperature sensor - voltage low/high
67 AT oil temperature sensor - voltage high
75 Transmission switch - voltage low
76 Engine TPS load signal incorrect
77 Kickdown switch - voltage low
78 AT shift time - too long



Kao i za one koji nemaju ECU Mototronic već

Simtec 56 Fault code listing
Models from about 1995-1996 on will probably use codes from this list.

13 Oxygen Sensor - open circuit
14 Coolant temperature sensor - voltage low
15 Coolant temperature sensor - voltage high
16 Knock sensor signal circuit
19 Incorrect RPM signal
21 Throttle position sensor - voltage high
22 Throttle position sensor - voltage low
23 Knock signal - out of range
24 No vehicle speed signal
25/26/27/28/29/30 Injector valve 1/2/3/4/5/6 - voltage high (injector(s) short-circuited to battery, or injection signal not present)
37 Check light - voltage low
38 Oxygen sensor circuit - voltage high
39 Oxygen sensor circuit - voltage low
44 Oxygen sensor - lean exhaust
45 Oxygen sensor - rich exhaust
48 Battery - voltage low
49 Battery - voltage high
52 Fuel pump relay - voltage low
53 Fuel pump relay - voltage high
54 Fuel pump relay 0 - voltage high
55 ECU memory fault
56 Idle air control valve - voltage high
57 Idle air control valve - voltage low
61 Fuel tank vent valve - voltage low
62 Fuel tank vent valve - voltage high
69 Intake air temperature
71 as above
73 Mass air flow temperature
74 Mass air flow temperature
75 Torque control - voltage low
76 Torque control - continuous
81/82/83/84/85/86 - Injector valve 1/2/3/4/5/6 - voltage low (injector(s) short circuit to ground)
87 A/C cut-off relay - voltage low
88 A/C cut-off relay - voltage high
91 Oxygen heating - voltage high
92 Camshaft position sensor - incorrect signal
93 Camshaft position sensor - voltage low
94 Camshaft position sensor - voltage high
95 Hot start valve - voltage low
96 Hot start valve - voltage low
97 Traction control module - incorrect signal
98 Oxygen Sensor heating - voltage low
113 Turbo wastegate control - boost pressure high
114 Turbo boost pressure (idle) - above upper limit
115 Turbo boost pressure (full) - below upper limit
116 Turbo boost pressure - above upper limit
117 Turbo wastegate regulating valve - voltage low
118 Turbo wastegate regulating valve - voltage high
119 Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor - range or performance
121 Oxygen sensor - lean mixture
122 Oxygen sensor - rich mixture
123 Intake manifold air control solenoid (1) - blocked
124 Intake manifold air control solenoid (2) - blocked
125 MAP sensor - below upper limit
126 MAP sensor - above upper limit
129 Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system - voltage low
131 EGR system - voltage high
132 EGR system - incorrect signal
133 EGR system (2) - voltage high/low (unclear)
134 EGR system (2) - voltage low/high (unclear)
135 Malfunction indicator lamp - voltage low
136 ECU memory fault
137 ECU - temperature high
138 MAP sensor - voltage low
139 MAP sensor - voltage high
143 Immobiliser - no signal/wrong signal
144 Immobiliser - no signal
145 Immobiliser - wrong signal

Simtec 56.5 Fault Code Listing


0100 Mass air flow sensor
0105 Intake manifold pressure sensor
0110 Intake air temperature sensor
0115 Intake coolant temperature sensor
0120 HEGO heater
0150 HEGO
0173 HEGO
0201/020/0203/0204/0205/0206 Injector 1/2/3/4/5/6
0230 Fuel pump
0325 Knock sensor
0330 Knock sensor 2
0335 Crank sensor
0340 Camshaft sensor
0351 Ignition coil 1+4
0352 Ignition coil 2+3
0400 EGR valve
0403 EGR valve
0410 Secondary air pump relay
0412 Secondary solenoid valve
0433 Fuel tank vent valve
0500 Odometer frequency sensor
0505 Idle speed stepper motor/idle air regulator
0560 Battery
1110 Switch over valve solenoid
1112 Switch over valve 1
1113 Switch over valve 2
1120 Throttle body malfunction
1229 Power supply relay
1231 Fuel pump relay
1320/1327/1328/1329 Knock control cylinder 1/2/3/4
1405 EGR valve
1410 Secondary air pump relay
1411 Secondary air pump
1501/1502/1503 Immobiliser control unit
1530 Air flow relay
1600 Internal control module
1601 ECU temperature high
1602 Knock control module
1604/1605/1606 Knock control unit
1640 Knock control unit or quad drive module
1690 MIL/Engine fail (malfunction indicator lamp)
1740 Torque control unit

Ovo sam ja odnekle skinuo a ne secam se gde , imam ga u ovakvoj formi

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ŽIVOT JE JEDAN,
A Calibra DVA.NULA

da bih rijec rekao!

ovo ide kod mene u arhivu

hvala stari i svaka cast !

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16 V Gust vozilo by Lega_Os ET 13.803 sec/TT 13.674 / 402
Opel Astra 2.0 GSi

A da li bi mi neko preveo na srpski kod greske za kadett 13i ohc motor 89-o god, a kod je 35 (Idle Speed Control Valve (ISCV) Poor or no idle speed control)? a uporedo mi izlazi i 45 greska a ona je valjda od lamde ili gresim. I jedno nisam razumeo ili nisam nasao da procitam jel bolje citati kodove kad motor radi ili samo na kontaktu?
Posto mene zajebava sauh pa me zanima ima li ova greska nesto sa sauhom?

F,C 35 ventil (motor) praznog hoda
F,C 45 lambda sonda

procitaj ovde za ventil praznog hoda

viewtopic.php?f=146&t=7726

a ovde o lambda sondi

viewtopic.php?f=147&t=6426&p=111804&hilit=lamda+sonda#p111804